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    Smitty

    Good article Max! We should all stick to the regs and the limitations our aircraft. I still ask people how much they weigh before taking them on a flight. Some get offended, but that's too bad.

    Max Trescott

    I think it's critical that pilots never worry about whether someone becomes offended when we ask. I've always explained why I'm asking and people seem to understand. Besides, it's far better for someone to be offended than to get into an accident.

    TheGimliGlider

    Excellent write-up Max. Speaking of weight and balance, two of my most favorite incidents come to mind.

    1. Pilot overloads a 4 seater cessna with patient, emergency oxygen equipment and his/her caretakers. Plane stalls shortly after take-off, bursts into flames, killing everyone on board: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWC2XJYgcJU

    2. This is going to be horrific. Viewer's discretion is advised. In 1975, World Airways sends a Boeing 727 to Vietnam to rescue stranded women and children. Instead the aircraft was swamped by military personnel climbing on the aircraft. There were 260 people aboard a plane which is designed to carry 105. Plane was overloaded by 20,000 pounds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoA02PmueH4

    blueghost27

    I thought of the amount of people in the plane too immediately when they mentioned it was a Pilatus PC 12. The decision making was poor. To have been a fly on the wall as the pilot, the owner, and the passengers were discussing the variables, time, money, costs, pilot, etc.... Making two trips can cost a lot of money and time and I am sure ... there was a discussion about this. I do not think the pilot would have put 14 people in that plane, regardless of the age unless he had made a conscious decision after some discussion with other parties about the costs, the time, the hassle of two flights from CA to MT. We have all had to make that type of decision about timing, cost, hassle. We have all had passengers who are not pilots challange our better judgement because of convenience. The pilot as we all know bears the all the responsbility for what happened on this flight. I think it is a lesson for all of us to remember to not question our own judgement no matter what the hassles, cost, etc. are.

    Kat

    I am concerned about a man and his fiancee consistently taking themselves and 3 children in a fourseat plane and have 2 of them share a seat belt, commenting to the children that they are like 1 person. As someone that knows nothing about the regulations on this am I right to be concerned and what are the avenues to find out the proper guidelines o the children's safety?

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